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Canadian Livingstones
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:21 pm
by Canadian Livingstone
Hi All, Despite my asthma, a possible, fractured shoulder and bruised head, not to mention last moment desperate Christmas shopping, I hope to soon get back on track with the research on the earliest Canadian Livingstone settlers. When all is said and done there are a number of our highland Livingstones that settled from the late 1700's into the early 1800's in what is today the Canadian provinces of Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island, Manitoba and Ontario. THe
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:36 pm
by Kyle2 MacLea
Donald! Were you in an accident?
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:02 pm
by Canadian Livingstone
HI Kyle, I regret to say that I slipped in bathtub and hit my head and shoulder on the toilet seat. Not the brightest thing I have done. One more interesting point. It turns out that between 1818 and 1821 there were in fact several Livingstone families that settled in what is today Lanark County, Ontario what Dr. David referred to as Lanark County, Canada West in his letter of 1850 included in the Dr. Livingstone Biography of RJ Campbell. I have not determined whether they were from the Glasgow area or from Argyll as yet, but some arrived at the port of Quebec in the new world from the port of Greenock in Scotland. From what I seen of the Livingstone records in Upper Canada (ONtario) from this early period this is one of the largest settlement areas of Livingstones at this time. IN Esquesing Township, Halton County in what they called the Scotch Block there were only three Livingstone family circa 1819 that of my ancestor Miles Livingston, Malcolm Livingston and John Livingston all of Argyll. Settlement in Lanark County was encouraged by the British Government at this time and disbanded soldiers from the Napoleonic Wars and other Scots settled at the military settlement of Perth and other locations in Lanark COunty. That is why I am wondering if there is any possibility that one or more of Dr. David's Uncles who we know from Dr. Dave in fact served in the military during that period. Just a hunch, but worth checking out. ANy in event, even if this cant be proved in the end its worth locating as many lost clan members we can find I should think for the records. regards Donald (Livingstone Clink
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:36 pm
by Kyle2 MacLea
Well, accidents happen!
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:04 am
by Canadian Livingstone
Hi Kyle, Ultimately I am going to keep doing this historical family research because I enjoy doing it. If others such as yourself are interested thats great. And you never know someday this record of Livingstone settlement in Canada may prove helpfull to folks researching their long lost Livingstone ancestors. Certainly we are cousins, somewhat distant I would imagine, but if our understanding of this clan Maconlea is correct, then the Lindsaig/Bute MacLeas may well be connected to the Lismore/Morvern Maconleas/MacLeas. Certainly I consider myself a Maconlea or MacLea like yourself. THe Livingstone name change is afterall a relatively recent event in the overall history of this very ancient clan. I went to the library today and located Dr. David Livingstone's brother John b.1811 with his wife Sarah (MacKenzie) and family in Lanark Township, Lanark County. He is employed as a tanner and living at Con. 2 Lot 2 in Lanark Township, Lanark County. He arrived in Lanark County, Canada West (ONtario) sometime in 1840. So Dr. Livingstone is right on the mark when he stated in his 1850 letter that his brother lived in Lanark County, Canada West. It should be noted that by the time of the next Canada West Census in 1861, he and his family had moved to the town of Listowel in Perth County where he is listed as being a merchant in the town.(He moved in 1860.) John Livingstone Sr. died in 1899. His son John Livingstone Jr. was a druggist in the town of Listowel for a number of years. John Jr's son Dr. David Livingstone grand-nephew of the famous Dr. David Livingstone was proud of his name sake and relative and practiced medicine in the Province of Saskatchewan in the early 1900's.
So I guess I am counting on the possibility that David's brother chose Lanark County in the 1840's because there were many Scots that had settled there prior to the 1840's and that he is related to one or more of the Livingstons that arrived there in the 1820's. But then again maybe this theory will turn out to go nowhere. Oh well at least we know that the John Livingstone in Lanark County in 1851 is the same John Livingstone that is living in Perth County, Canada West in 1861 with wife Sarah and his family. regards Donald
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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 4:07 am
by Suzanne Livingstone
Actually I have family that was born in Lanark County Ontario, although not necessarily the same Livingston family I have a great great grandfather George Livingston born approximately 1841 to a William Livingston and Isabella Bremner.
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:00 am
by Canadian Livingstone
Hi Suzanne, Yes William Livingston settled in Lanark County and left Scotland in 1821 I think with the Bremners or Bremmer family. His wife as you say was Isabella. THere is as you say some info on this family on the internet. There were several Livingstones that settled in Lanark County between 1818 and 1821 with other SCots encouraged to do so. I am going to list these in my next letter. Interestingly enough i have discovered at least three Livingstones that were apparently on that ship the "DAvid of London" that sailed from Greenock, Scotland in May of 1821 and arrived later at the port of Quebec. From there the settlers journied down the Saint Lawrence River till they got to Upper Canada and eventually reached Lanark County. So far I have no evidence linking them to John Livingstone brother of Dr David Livingstone who first of all settled in Lanark Township, Lanark County, Ontario, Canada sometime between 1843 and 1845. Before 1861 he had settled in Listowel, in Perth County, ONtario where his family lived in the 1800's. As I mentioned in a previous letter here, Dr. Livingstone mentioned in a letter circa 1850 that he had either other relatives besides his brother in Lanark
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:05 am
by Canadian Livingstone
Hi Suzanne, Regarding the last letter, I meant that I have "no" evidence so far linking John Livingstone brother of Dr. Livingstone residing in Lanark County in the 1940's and 1850's as being connected to the first
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:53 am
by Suzanne Livingstone
Thank you for the clarification Donald.
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:16 pm
by D.W.Livingston
Hi Suzanne, I was in the same boat with the names being the same. I have a John Livingston who had a son George Livingston who then had a son names John Livingston. The naming convention it appears is to give the first born the same name as the fathers father, middle name the same surname of the Fathers mother then the last name. This worked in my favor though. Lets say I am looking for the parents of George Pryde Livingston and I know his fathers first name is John. I can look to find a John Livingston married to a female Pryde and that is how I found the next chain. After that I look to see in the census or historical data any child with the parents John Livingston and Marion(Mary) Pryde and got a lot of hits. But I am not down at the turn of the 1800's so the records might be different. David