Nova Scotia/PEI Livingstone Research

[Roberta Ann]

Hi Donald;

John Livingstone from Fort William to Antigonish County, NS. settled Cape George 1812. Went later to Little Judique, Inverness Country marrried Isabel McDonald, daughter Anne.


Regards;

Roberta

[Canadian Livingstone]

HI Roberta,

Actually in December of 2008 you contacted me with the following info which was a great bit on detailed info on this John Livingston and Isabel MacDonald family of Judique, Inverness County:

From "Fair is the Place" by Mildred and John Colin MacDonald
John P. Livingston b.1773 at Fort William Scotland
Immigration 1812
married Isabel MacDonald born 1780 daughter of Angus MacDonald of Island of Eigg, Scotland
Children: Mary, Angus, Sarah, Christy,Catharine, Malcolm b.1803, Anne b.1805 and Margaret b.1815
Claimed 500 acres along the shore of Cape Breton at Judique
Malcolm is only son of John and Isabel I noticed in the 19th century records at Port Hood. Havent looked for the son Angus at Judique in the early census records though. Malcolm is the only one that shows up in the later census records at nearby Port Hood. I think Roger Livingston was descended from this family.
regards,

Donald

[Roberta Ann]

Hi Donald;

Yes and Roger Alexander Livingstone is our closest 67 marker match.

Regards;

Roberta

[Livingstone_PEI]

Wow

I've been missing alot.

Ok....something else to think about.

Colin's daughter Katherine....I don't have any other information other than she was living in USA in 1892. If there is a US census for 1891 she may be in that. She is not married in 1892, because the deed I found for Colin's farm lists all of the husband's and wives of his siblings and Katherine is not married.

This is new, but now I have my daughter hooked on geneology and she is doing a geneology course this semester in University. She needed some history of the communities of her grandparents. I found a magazine article in the Islander Magazine about a rum riot in Dundas, which is near to the farm in Upton of Angus, Colin's son. One of the accused and charged rioters was John Martin. Colin's daughter Mary was married to a John Martin of Dundas. It is likely the same John Martin. The riot happened in 1860, which I believe is shortly before Colin and his family moved to PEI, if Colin was still living in Wycocomagh at that time. Ironically Angus bought the farm my mother was raised on from John and Mary Martin. Later on Mary is listed as a widower in the PEI census.

Working on some other things. I'm trying to find Colin's brothers and sisters in the NS census. It is likely they are there and they seem to use siblings names for their children. NOt definite, but may give some clues.

Barry

[Jewel]

I just can't figure out this quote thing. Always seem to get the entire message. Sorry about this, my answer to Barry is below.

Jewel

Wow

I've been missing alot.

Ok....something else to think about.

Colin's daughter Katherine....I don't have any other information other than she was living in USA in 1892. If there is a US census for 1891 she may be in that. She is not married in 1892, because the deed I found for Colin's farm lists all of the husband's and wives of his siblings and Katherine is not married.

This is new, but now I have my daughter hooked on geneology and she is doing a geneology course this semester in University. She needed some history of the communities of her grandparents. I found a magazine article in the Islander Magazine about a rum riot in Dundas, which is near to the farm in Upton of Angus, Colin's son. One of the accused and charged rioters was John Martin. Colin's daughter Mary was married to a John Martin of Dundas. It is likely the same John Martin. The riot happened in 1860, which I believe is shortly before Colin and his family moved to PEI, if Colin was still living in Wycocomagh at that time. Ironically Angus bought the farm my mother was raised on from John and Mary Martin. Later on Mary is listed as a widower in the PEI census.

Working on some other things. I'm trying to find Colin's brothers and sisters in the NS census. It is likely they are there and they seem to use siblings names for their children. NOt definite, but may give some clues.

Barry

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Roberta,

I confess to having two dates 1803 and 1812 for John Livingston and Isabel MacDonald at Judique and will get someone to check the land records to make sure there was no 1803 record for that John Livingstone at Judique. If not then it must be 1812. The 1803 reference was from an encyclopedia of Scottish Candian settlers and the original source may or may not be correct it has been pointed out to me. The one entry for John Livingston of Mull River 1773-1840 I am not certain that is the correct John Livingston and Catharine Campbell family listed rather it has likely been taken from the Kilninian and Kilmore Parish records. There were two John Livingston and Catharine Campbell families around the same time period unfortunately. The Mull River and Whyccomagh Livingstons are almost certainly related and children of John Livingston and Catharine Campbell despite contrary information. Alexander b.1814 and Barry's ancestor Colin b. 1818 were at Whycocomagh. THe earlier researchers were not aware of Barry's ancestor being at Whycocomagh. Anyways I acknowledge that connecting the Whycocomagh and Mull River families is alot more challenging than I thought and the 100% proof may never be found. WIth contrary info out there it is difficult.

regards,

Donald.


regards,

Donald

[Jewel]

Hi Barry,

The time period for 1891 is a bad time for the U.S.census, as there was a fire and most of the 1890 census for the U.S. were destroyed.

Jewel

[Canadian Livingstone]

Hi Barry,

Based upon Colin's 1867 obituary and the information I have presented yesterday I would suggest that the John Livingston Jr of Mull River is Colin's brother as is Alexander b.1814 of neighbouring Whycocomagh. As Dr. St. Clair stated the Mull RIver Livingstons attended church at Whycocomagh. I think there werent any more brothers in the area or if there were one or two they went elsewhere in Nova Scotia. I am theorizing there may have been a Donald and possibly a Duncan b.1799 but I am not sure. I think the three John, Alexander and Colin are the real deal though I am still trying to find more proof your Colin was even living at Whycocomagh though I am convinced he did. Jewel I am hoping will be able to check out that info on Colin Livngston in the 1860 /1861 Whycocomagh census and see if it is a legitimate lead or not.

If we could do a DNA test of a descendant of John Livingston Jr. of Mull Riverand compare it with a DNA test of a Livingston cousin of yours then we could determine whether or not the Whycocomagh Livingstons and the Mull River Livingstons are the same family.

regards,

Donald

[Canadian Livingstone]

HI Barry,

If you still have the Colin Livingstone obituary information perhaps you could run that by me again if you dont mind.
regards,

DOnald

[Kyle MacLea]

The time period for 1891 is a bad time for the U.S.census, as there was a fire and most of the 1890 census for the U.S. were destroyed.

As an aside: This is the most annoying thing ever. Of course, what is the one census I would most like to have to see my immigrant ancestors in their first long-term home in the US? Yep. 1890. Would have been nice, but no dice. Ack!

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